I'm watching Maddow now (for the second time this evening - we get it twice on the West Coast), and the current news is just beyond belief. Do we not have ANY control over the progress of Justice in this country(or what attempts to pass for it...?) Blatant criminal activity RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF EVE...

Bob Olhsson wrote: ↑November 25th, 2018, 7:26 pm Di-Fi certainly is the embodiment of SF real estate and gentrification. Pelosi, not so much.

Same machine.

Actually, I think the CANDIDATES deserve the credit for running campaigns tailored to their constituencies. Indeed, they should get most of it. There isn't a one-size-fits-all template that applies to all regions. I find it alarming that some people think that that would work. I think conditions ar...

I see. But because of her position, she is being given credit for the historic win in the House. She should probably get some credit. I think Trump & the Teabaggers should really get most of the credit for the Democratic win, for making their party appear so obviously vile and dangerous that ev...

John is right; you need both understanding and strategy to win people over to your cause. Just planting your ideological flag in the dirt and sneering at anyone who disagrees is what leads to the kind of divided societies we're living in, where no political group has enough of a mandate to get anyt...

nobby wrote: ↑November 24th, 2018, 11:51 pm So you can see, things can happen quickly and as a farner you aren't required to follow American politics, though it can be hard to look away from a good train wreck.

I wasn't aware that Los Anjeleeze was a furrin country?

But I'm kind of vague on what the House speaker's job, the details of it, are and why she is doing a bad job and needs to be replaced. The Speaker of the House is the presiding officer of the United States House of Representatives. The office was established in 1789 by Article I, Section 2 of the U...

Shame the Supreme Court is so unbalanced. Well, if you're on the right, you'd probably think it was unbalanced in the "wrong" direction, and you'd be breathing a sigh of relief. My lefty friends have always said that the court has always been biased right, my righty friends say the opposi...

John is right; you need both understanding and strategy to win people over to your cause. Just planting your ideological flag in the dirt and sneering at anyone who disagrees is what leads to the kind of divided societies we're living in, where no political group has enough of a mandate to get anyt...

upstairs wrote: ↑November 24th, 2018, 3:36 am

John Eppstein wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2018, 7:45 pmWho was that on The Womb who had a sig that went "Rednecks call me a tree-hugger and tree-huggers call me a redneck. I must be doing something right!" We need more of that.

I feel like that was Sue Rarick? Not sure. But I agree.

Yes, it was! Has anybody heard from her?

So you're abandoning rational discussion? The fact that you wrote 2 long posts about a post I was still editing is an indication that I may have to abandon ship, but how dare you call this a rational discussion? :vuvu: Did I hit a nerve? You're not my dentist, THANK GOD!! BTW, most people are sheep...

No. real conservatism has nothing to do with fascism, which is about social repression. American conservatives who identify as social conservatives, and whom everyone else with the possible exception of you :razz: considers to be social conservatives SPECIALIZE in social repression. First, I'm not ...

No, conservatives are absolutely control freaks. Got gerrymandering? A minority of Americans ramming conservative judges down the throats of the majority so that social conservatives can make abortion and homosexuality illegal and the so-called fiscal conservatives want to control government to mak...

No. real conservatism has nothing to do with fascism, which is about social repression. American conservatives who identify as social conservatives, and whom everyone else with the possible exception of you :razz: considers to be social conservatives SPECIALIZE in social repression. First, I'm not ...

I'd like to point out that when you're involved in a "game" that contains strong elements of strategy and tactics it's best to try to understand your opponent as deeply as possible. And when your opponent consists of a large group containing several various factions it helps to be able to ...

Those aren't conservatives, those are Robber Barons. Robber barons are just the most successful conservatives. As opposed to the more typical robber baron wannabe conservatives. No. It may be difficult to differentiate in today's climate, but the difference is that real conservatives have a more or...

I recently recalled an incident from a few years ago. Forum with a large number of recording engineers, which is when you get "interesting" viewpoints. It was a thread in which the subject was pitch and the engineers began to bitch. One complained about how out of tune Frank Sinatra sang....

Those aren't conservatives, those are Robber Barons. Robber barons are just the most successful conservatives. As opposed to the more typical robber baron wannabe conservatives. No. It may be difficult to differentiate in today's climate, but the difference is that real conservatives have a more or...

But openly breaking law and acting against the constitution or amendments is not a conservative thing to do. There is no "conservative" any more. People who call themselves conservatives in the US are doing exactly that right now, acting against the constitution and openly breaking the la...

But openly breaking law and acting against the constitution or amendments is not a conservative thing to do. There is no "conservative" any more. People who call themselves conservatives in the US are doing exactly that right now, acting against the constitution and openly breaking the la...

But openly breaking law and acting against the constitution or amendments is not a conservative thing to do. There is no "conservative" any more. People who call themselves conservatives in the US are doing exactly that right now, acting against the constitution and openly breaking the la...

What drives progressivism is fear of a labor revolution. Today we are dealing with the children of those who were afraid in the 1920s and '30s. That fear also historically drives fascism which is the divide and conquer approach of switching the blame so the victims fight among each other while igno...

Rev. Juda$ Sleaze wrote: ↑November 17th, 2018, 9:57 am So what would be an example of a moral and fiscally conservative Republican administration?

Eisenhower, more or less.

nobby wrote: ↑November 14th, 2018, 3:41 am
For example, during the Viet Nam war, conservatives bombed Viet Nam liberally.

Actually it was mostly liberal Democrats =- JFK and LBJ. Nixon just kept it going, mostly to distract from all the crooked shit he was pulling behind the scenes.

But again that ‘no sauce’ trip is a particular thing. It’s not more ‘authentic’ as mich as it’s a regional attitude. Texas bbq is typically no sauce. KC doesn’t disdain sauce. Carolina is kind of dependent on it. There’s no ONE right way anymore than Sichuan is more ‘authentically ‘ Chinese than Hu...

"Conservative" literally means averse to change. I guess reactionary aversion to making the world a better place is the kind of balance John is talking about... I think it's more about exerting caution about being an "early adopter." What you're describing is more like being a r...

I'm leaning more and more toward Beto O'Rourke fort president. That boy knows how to turn Republicans and he's got more charisma than we've seen in over half a century

The problem is that this underpopulated, economically backward state has as many senate seats as all of California or New York. And, like all of us, they look at things from the viewpoint of what affects THEM. If we want to take the Senate - and HOLD it - we have to think about people in those part...

"Conservative" literally means averse to change. Indeed, but in the US it means going back to the past. What urbanites fail to understand is this: THE PAST IS THE PRESENT IN LARGE PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. And I'm not talking about social attitudes, I'm talking about hard, cold, economic cond...

No. Conservatives used to be the side of "morality" That's where the dishonesty, hypocrisy and ignorance come in. They often don't walk the talk and when they do they think they have a monopoly on morality within their Judeo-Christian bubble. Fiscally conservative? You mean like liberals ...